Great discussion, particularly touched by segment where different generations of Muslims world views were articulated, immigrant the 2 nd, 3rd etc. Would love to talk to Paul by video about religion, culture, science, society and how they are intertwined, distinct yet codependent. I am from the US of Indian origin, Muslim, and officer of a poetry society, employed in IT, a poet myself, comparative religion and culture aficionado. Tremendously respect Paul’s blogging and videos, in terms of your interviewing skills and enthralling engagement.
Absolutely fascinating and riveting. I was trying to get dinner ready and – boy – did this distract me! Repeated many very interesting sections to make sure I didn’t miss anything! Looking forward to round two with the both of you.
I appreciated the fact that there are inter generational difference in how persons for the first immigrant generation, their children and now grand children have different perceptions and expectations from the community mosque. Engagement level would likely drop as the mosques setup by the new immigrants from the 1980’s onwards are designed, managed and reflect an older world view. The imams, their style, speeches are also not geared towards a new generation, which also includes many new reverts. My most disturbing observation is that due to language and cultural stratification, many mosques are tainted by the culture and language of their majorities. Hyderabadi, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Turkish, Arab, Syrian or American tend to segregate based on the language that the Khutbas (sermons) are delivered in. While English language in the US and UK overcomes this somewhat, cultural divides and barriers such as social and behavioral norms do pose some obstacles. Will be interesting to note the trans generational transformation which will take place in the next few decades. Religion and Culture and how each is connected to the other and impacts the world view and perceptual lens, is a most subtle yet impactful topic. How does one try to create a sense of unity in an Ummah that is so diverse geographically, linguistically and culturally?
I don’t think we can blame heads of nation states who may be suspicious of a religion that wants to establish a Caliphate with the aim of destroying all non-islamic nation states. This would entail the destruction of a multi-national Europe to replace it with one islamic state.
It’s more likely that the Chowdray version of Islam will rear its ugly head when Muslims are in the majority. Due to the simple fact of human nature which Islam encourages. Or please tell me where this is not the case in the real world of now, not your revised history of the world where the lion lies down with the lamb. For example we know that the jizya is designed to keep the kuffar in a state of destitution. We know that Christians are reserved for menial tasks in the state of Pakistan. Cleaning toilets and sweeping the streets, enslaved in brick kilns. Generally living in servitude and fear of discriminatory laws.
Great discussion, particularly touched by segment where different generations of Muslims world views were articulated, immigrant the 2 nd, 3rd etc. Would love to talk to Paul by video about religion, culture, science, society and how they are intertwined, distinct yet codependent. I am from the US of Indian origin, Muslim, and officer of a poetry society, employed in IT, a poet myself, comparative religion and culture aficionado. Tremendously respect Paul’s blogging and videos, in terms of your interviewing skills and enthralling engagement.
Absolutely fascinating and riveting. I was trying to get dinner ready and – boy – did this distract me! Repeated many very interesting sections to make sure I didn’t miss anything! Looking forward to round two with the both of you.
I appreciated the fact that there are inter generational difference in how persons for the first immigrant generation, their children and now grand children have different perceptions and expectations from the community mosque. Engagement level would likely drop as the mosques setup by the new immigrants from the 1980’s onwards are designed, managed and reflect an older world view. The imams, their style, speeches are also not geared towards a new generation, which also includes many new reverts. My most disturbing observation is that due to language and cultural stratification, many mosques are tainted by the culture and language of their majorities. Hyderabadi, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Turkish, Arab, Syrian or American tend to segregate based on the language that the Khutbas (sermons) are delivered in. While English language in the US and UK overcomes this somewhat, cultural divides and barriers such as social and behavioral norms do pose some obstacles. Will be interesting to note the trans generational transformation which will take place in the next few decades. Religion and Culture and how each is connected to the other and impacts the world view and perceptual lens, is a most subtle yet impactful topic. How does one try to create a sense of unity in an Ummah that is so diverse geographically, linguistically and culturally?
Does he agree with the laws contained in the Reliance of the Traveller?
If not why not and which book of islamic law does he adhere to and teach?
When Muslims are the majority in countries like Pakistan and Egypt they persecute Christians and other non-muslims.
Does his Islam with flowery aspirations allow all religions to openly proselytize and criticize each other in a Sharia compliant state?
Do you mean Serbian killing Bosnian?
I don’t think we can blame heads of nation states who may be suspicious of a religion that wants to establish a Caliphate with the aim of destroying all non-islamic nation states. This would entail the destruction of a multi-national Europe to replace it with one islamic state.
It’s more likely that the Chowdray version of Islam will rear its ugly head when Muslims are in the majority. Due to the simple fact of human nature which Islam encourages. Or please tell me where this is not the case in the real world of now, not your revised history of the world where the lion lies down with the lamb. For example we know that the jizya is designed to keep the kuffar in a state of destitution. We know that Christians are reserved for menial tasks in the state of Pakistan. Cleaning toilets and sweeping the streets, enslaved in brick kilns. Generally living in servitude and fear of discriminatory laws.