Very simple, if we take the tafsir of ayah 49 into consideration with ayah 48
“And so judge (you O Muhammad ) between them by what Allah has revealed and follow not their vain desires, but beware of them lest they turn you (O Muhammad ) far away from some of that which Allah has sent down to you [THE QURAN] And if they turn away [FROM THE QURAN], then know that Allah’s Will is to punish them for some sins of theirs. And truly, most of men are Fasiqun (rebellious and disobedient to Allah).
Again, in consideration with ayah 48-49 with proper Quranic exegesis, the multifaceted meanings of Muhayminan, encompasses the notion that whatever in these previous Books conforms to the Qur’an is true, and whatever diverges from the Qur’an is false., therefore, the Qur’an clearly denies the textual reliability of the previous scriptures that obviously directly contradict the Quranic doctrines, theology, especially when you measure Christian Christology against the Quranic view of Jesus (pbuh)
Lol the Quran is referring to the forged letters of Paul in the NT, a canonical Greek gospel that Matthew the disciple of Jesus did not write, the Gospel of John that falsely attributed words in the mouth of Jesus, utterances that Jesus never said or did – as the Injil??? Lol.. SMH lol…
LOL from 1:10 35 sec to 1:11 22 sec Lol… exactly why the Quran considers the canonical Greek scriptures as corrupted and directly incompatible with the Quran the scripturally and in doctrine in every sense lol….
“And so judge (you O Muhammad ) between them by what Allah has revealed and follow not their vain desires, but beware of them lest they turn you (O Muhammad ) far away from some of that which Allah has sent down to you [THE QURAN] And if they turn away [FROM THE QURAN], then know that Allah’s Will is to punish them for some sins of theirs. And truly, most of men are Fasiqun (rebellious and disobedient to Allah).
It’s convenient that Mohammed has a bad memory when the Quran needs to correct itself further down the line. Abrogation is just digging a rabbit hole to go down because you know you made a mistake somewhere.
A scripture that tells you to refer to another scripture which fundamentally contradicts it is itself a messed up scripture.
[2.106] Whatever communications We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or like it. Do you not know that Allah has power over all things?
If this verse refers to the bible then the Koran should have clearly said so instead of appearing to endorse it in some places and be against it in others. Ally claims that this verse refers to the bible.
I thought Allah was supposed to be a clear communicator?
[5.46] And We sent after them in their footsteps Isa, son of Marium, verifying what was before him of the Taurat and We gave him the Injeel in which was guidance and light, and verifying what was before it of Taurat and a guidance and an admonition for those who guard (against evil).
[5.47] And the followers of the Injeel should have judged by what Allah revealed in it; and whoever did not judge by what Allah revealed, those are they that are the transgressors.
In this case it must be the muslims who are the transgressors because they obviously don’t judge according to it’s contents.
So Allah is commanding to judge by what has been revealed therein and this has led most of the human beings who follow this book to be non-Muslims. Shouldn’t Allah have been more specific in the light of this fact? In view of this wouldn’t it have been more wise of Allah to simply tell people to reject the former books and simply rely on the new revelation, which is what modern Muslims do in actual reality? It seems they have more wisdom than the god that they believe in?
The only conclusion I can reach is that Islam is irrational commanding humans to follow the teachings of books that contradict each other.
wait a minute ‘God’ in the Bible is also a person … lol…
“3 persons in one God would be a more accurate philosophical approximation I think”
so 3 persons in another person, i.e = God ? lol… now you have 4 persons in Jake’s presumptions lol…
The term ‘One God’ in the bible is NEVER identified as some divine substance that’s shared around lol…. One God, when referred to the true Deity of Israel ALWAYS refers to denote or identify a divine Person, not a substance that 3 or 319 persons share lol…. SMH
I am just trying to say that in the bible the same God who speaks to his creation as one person self reflects as more than one person.
Your deity also self-reflects as more than one person:
“[2.35] And We said: O Adam! Dwell you and your wife in the garden and eat from it a plenteous (food) wherever you wish and do not approach this tree, for then you will be of the unjust.”
Very simple, if we take the tafsir of ayah 49 into consideration with ayah 48
“And so judge (you O Muhammad ) between them by what Allah has revealed and follow not their vain desires, but beware of them lest they turn you (O Muhammad ) far away from some of that which Allah has sent down to you [THE QURAN] And if they turn away [FROM THE QURAN], then know that Allah’s Will is to punish them for some sins of theirs. And truly, most of men are Fasiqun (rebellious and disobedient to Allah).
Again, in consideration with ayah 48-49 with proper Quranic exegesis, the multifaceted meanings of Muhayminan, encompasses the notion that whatever in these previous Books conforms to the Qur’an is true, and whatever diverges from the Qur’an is false., therefore, the Qur’an clearly denies the textual reliability of the previous scriptures that obviously directly contradict the Quranic doctrines, theology, especially when you measure Christian Christology against the Quranic view of Jesus (pbuh)
Lol the Quran is referring to the forged letters of Paul in the NT, a canonical Greek gospel that Matthew the disciple of Jesus did not write, the Gospel of John that falsely attributed words in the mouth of Jesus, utterances that Jesus never said or did – as the Injil??? Lol.. SMH lol…
LOL from 1:10 35 sec to 1:11 22 sec Lol… exactly why the Quran considers the canonical Greek scriptures as corrupted and directly incompatible with the Quran the scripturally and in doctrine in every sense lol….
“And so judge (you O Muhammad ) between them by what Allah has revealed and follow not their vain desires, but beware of them lest they turn you (O Muhammad ) far away from some of that which Allah has sent down to you [THE QURAN] And if they turn away [FROM THE QURAN], then know that Allah’s Will is to punish them for some sins of theirs. And truly, most of men are Fasiqun (rebellious and disobedient to Allah).
It’s convenient that Mohammed has a bad memory when the Quran needs to correct itself further down the line. Abrogation is just digging a rabbit hole to go down because you know you made a mistake somewhere.
A scripture that tells you to refer to another scripture which fundamentally contradicts it is itself a messed up scripture.
[2.106] Whatever communications We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or like it. Do you not know that Allah has power over all things?
If this verse refers to the bible then the Koran should have clearly said so instead of appearing to endorse it in some places and be against it in others. Ally claims that this verse refers to the bible.
I thought Allah was supposed to be a clear communicator?
[5.46] And We sent after them in their footsteps Isa, son of Marium, verifying what was before him of the Taurat and We gave him the Injeel in which was guidance and light, and verifying what was before it of Taurat and a guidance and an admonition for those who guard (against evil).
[5.47] And the followers of the Injeel should have judged by what Allah revealed in it; and whoever did not judge by what Allah revealed, those are they that are the transgressors.
In this case it must be the muslims who are the transgressors because they obviously don’t judge according to it’s contents.
So Allah is commanding to judge by what has been revealed therein and this has led most of the human beings who follow this book to be non-Muslims. Shouldn’t Allah have been more specific in the light of this fact? In view of this wouldn’t it have been more wise of Allah to simply tell people to reject the former books and simply rely on the new revelation, which is what modern Muslims do in actual reality? It seems they have more wisdom than the god that they believe in?
The only conclusion I can reach is that Islam is irrational commanding humans to follow the teachings of books that contradict each other.
The most irrational thing is One God in 3 persons, that’s it.
3 persons in one God would be a more accurate philosophical approximation I think.
And would be more flexible for adding another God in the future (eg. 4 persons, 5 persons, 6 persons…n persons in one God)
wait a minute ‘God’ in the Bible is also a person … lol…
“3 persons in one God would be a more accurate philosophical approximation I think”
so 3 persons in another person, i.e = God ? lol… now you have 4 persons in Jake’s presumptions lol…
The term ‘One God’ in the bible is NEVER identified as some divine substance that’s shared around lol…. One God, when referred to the true Deity of Israel ALWAYS refers to denote or identify a divine Person, not a substance that 3 or 319 persons share lol…. SMH
“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:”
“And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,”
Do you mean God creates another god?
I am just trying to say that in the bible the same God who speaks to his creation as one person self reflects as more than one person.
Your deity also self-reflects as more than one person:
“[2.35] And We said: O Adam! Dwell you and your wife in the garden and eat from it a plenteous (food) wherever you wish and do not approach this tree, for then you will be of the unjust.”
How many of your deity is there?
How many King rules in one country?
[19:36] [Jesus said], “And indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.”
According to Jesus How many of deity is there?