The First Council of Constantinople – and why Jesus would have wept.

The First Council of Constantinople was a council of Christian bishops convened in Constantinople in AD 381 by the Roman Emperor Theodosius I. This second ecumenical council confirmed the Nicene Creed, expanding its teaching to produce the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed, and defined the Holy Spirit (along with Jesus) as a deity worthy of worship.

I explain why Jesus – had he observed the proceedings of the council – would have wept.



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  1. In the beginning were 2 Gods: God (The Father) and The Word (Jesus).
    After second ecumenical council become 3 Gods: God (The Father) , The Word (Jesus).and the Holy Spirit.

    Rabbi Tovia Singer said: Christian is a Fake Monotheist Religion.

  2. St Gregory Nyssen literally wrote a book entitled ‘Not Three Gods’

      • As St Gregory, may his prayers be with us, said “But in the case of the Divine nature we do not similarly learn that the Father does anything by Himself in which the Son does not work conjointly, or again that the Son has any special operation apart from the Holy Spirit; but every operation which extends from God to the Creation, and is named according to our variable conceptions of it, has its origin from the Father, and proceeds through the Son, and is perfected in the Holy Spirit. For this reason the name derived from the operation is not divided with regard to the number of those who fulfil it, because the action of each concerning anything is not separate and peculiar, but whatever comes to pass, in reference either to the acts of His providence for us, or to the government and constitution of the universe, comes to pass by the action of the Three, yet what does come to pass is not three things. We may understand the meaning of this from one single instance. From Him, I say, Who is the chief source of gifts, all things which have shared in this grace have obtained their life. When we inquire, then, whence this good gift came to us, we find by the guidance of the Scriptures that it was from the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Yet although we set forth Three Persons and three names, we do not consider that we have had bestowed upon us three lives, one from each Person separately; but the same life is wrought in us by the Father, and prepared by the Son, and depends on the will of the Holy Spirit. Since then the Holy Trinity fulfils every operation in a manner similar to that of which I have spoken, not by separate action according to the number of the Persons, but so that there is one motion and disposition of the good will which is communicated from the Father through the Son to the Spirit (for as we do not call those whose operation gives one life three Givers of life, neither do we call those who are contemplated in one goodness three Good beings, nor speak of them in the plural by any of their other attributes); so neither can we call those who exercise this Divine and superintending power and operation towards ourselves and all creation, conjointly and inseparably, by their mutual action, three Gods. For as when we learn concerning the God of the universe, from the words of Scripture, that He judges all the earth Romans 3:6, we say that He is the Judge of all things through the Son: and again, when we hear that the Father judges no man , we do not think that the Scripture is at variance with itself —(for He Who judges all the earth does this by His Son to Whom He has committed all judgment; and everything which is done by the Only-begotten has its reference to the Father, so that He Himself is at once the Judge of all things and judges no man, by reason of His having, as we said, committed all judgment to the Son, while all the judgment of the Son is conformable to the will of the Father; and one could not properly say either that They are two judges, or that one of Them is excluded from the authority and power implied in judgment);— so also in the case of the word Godhead, Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God, and that very power of superintendence and beholding which we call Godhead, the Father exercises through the Only-begotten, while the Son perfects every power by the Holy Spirit, judging, as Isaiah says, by the Spirit of judgment and the Spirit of burning Isaiah 4:4, and acting by Him also, according to the saying in the Gospel which was spoken to the Jews. For He says, If I by the Spirit of God cast out devils Matthew 12:28 ; where He includes every form of doing good in a partial description, by reason of the unity of action: for the name derived from operation cannot be divided among many where the result of their mutual operation is one.”

      • thanks for the slab of copy and paste.

    • Title should of been ” I’m so confused so I made this up”

      • Well sir, given that St Gregory was far holier that I ever shall be, his views on doctrine are far clearer than mine. I respect the words of the saints, who were filled by the Spirit of God, and these saints destroyed the idols of the pagans who denied the true God. If you will excuse me, your ignoring the words of the Fathers is a product of protestant backbiting. If you wish to understand the faith, read the Scriptures and Fathers, who stated that “summe unus est Pater Veritatis, Pater suae Sapientiae”. Deo Gratias.

      • I fail to comprehend why anyone other than a prophet or messenger would destroy idols.

      • Thanks Toby, you’ve just clarified that the unity of action and mutual operation is carried out by 3 distinct personal divine gods

        got it! 3 distinct divine gods, whom share the same essence of divinity, acting collectively in unison to carry out actions in unity 🙂

        Like you, me and Paul – We are 3 distinct persons, whom share the same essence of (human) being that collectively prepare tea with unity of action and mutual operation. You boil the water, I pour water into a cup and Paul throws in the tea bag 🙂 – the unity of action and mutual operation is carried out by 3 distinct personal humans lol …

      • And just like that, Christian theology gets pissed away

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