From one God to two gods to three “Gods” – Johanine prologue and early Christian theologies


undefined In his fascinating presentation, unitarian scholar Dr. Dale Tuggy explores the nuances of hotly debated saying in Johanine prologue. How many Gods are mentioned in relation to “the Word?

Also Mr. Tuggy explores whether this God or other different god supposedly to be the same self as the man Jesus (ﷺ) or the Son.

Finally Mr Tuggy shows how early Christian theology has evolved from unitarian to trinitarian God during the course of 4 centuries from the Apostolic Age until the Ante-Nicene period. He argues the correct interpretation is that the Word is God’s wisdom and power. So there is no two natures nor two persons in the man Jesus (ﷺ).


There is just the man Jesus (ﷺ) with God’s power and wisdom in him to make him a great prophet of God.



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  1. Quran 4:82
    Then do they not reflect upon the Qur’an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah, they would have found within it much contradiction.

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  2. 200 year from now Christian would have 5 gods and new revision of bible, if they still exist.

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  3. “There is just the man Jesus (ﷺ) with God’s power and wisdom in him to make him a great prophet of God.”

    God’s power and wisdom can’t be loaned out to other beings like a rental car.

    We don’t need theories, evolving or not, to be trinitarian Christians. We just need the bible. They are not fundamental to belief.

    Would anyone Muslim believe in Tawheed if he had to explain it?

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    • “God’s power and wisdom can’t be loaned out to other beings like a rental car.”

      Yeah sure, and moses was akin to a rented ps4 game disc

      “We don’t need theories, evolving or not, to be trinitarian Christians. We just need the bible. They are not fundamental to belief.”

      The point is why was there an evolution in the first place, god isn’t incompetent enough to get his message across in some particular point in time only for people to properly understand it 2 to 3 centuries later

      “Would anyone Muslim believe in Tawheed if he had to explain it?”

      Apples and Oranges, the debate which revolves around Trinitarianism is whether it is polytheism or not

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    • @ Erasmus

      “We don’t need theories, evolving or not, to be trinitarian Christians.”
      The whole foundation of the trinitarian belief is built on philosophy and theories

      “We just need the bible.”
      The problem is the bible doesn’t support the Trinity. The most support you’re going to get is from the authors of John and they didn’t think Jesus(as) was God but a pre-existent semi-divine being that was subservient to God.

      “Would anyone Muslim believe in Tawheed if he had to explain it?
      They wouldn’t be a Muslim if they couldn’t. Also, unlike the contradictory paganism that is the trinity, Tawheed is simple. Your God is One. The end.

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