Speakers’ Corner is at 16-22 minutes. The police were much more hands on then and quickly suppressed any anti-Semitic speech as you can see. I don’t think that would happen today. Demographically it was much more English/white too. Today we are a minority. Arabs seem to predominate in 2020.
Categories: Anti-Semitism, Debates, London, Speakers' Corner
I spotted a younger Heiko Khoo, did you see any other of today’s faces?
Also the police seemed somewhat stricter on drugs. Nowadays you don’t actually have to be smoking a spliff to inhale a fair amount of the vile stuff.
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indeed. Ralph from Patriotic Alternative is a regular consumer of cannabis there.
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Eglish/White domination and colonialism led to immigration and globalism in 2020, stop whining.
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Tut tut.
Your dreadful spelling: it’s ‘English’ not Eglish’.
On balance the English people have been a great blessing to the peoples of the world. It’s sad they have become a minority in their own capital and at Speakers’ Corner. Haters like you notwithstanding.
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And also not knowing the difference between “globalism” (NWO) and globalization.
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We are clearly dealing with an uneducated person.
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The English have brutalized and exploited many peoples of the world. Where they ever “colonized” by Asian or Africans? It’s time they properly dealt with their colonial past and crimes.
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As great empires go the English were relatively benign. But like all haters of the English you choose to ignore the extraordinary and unparalleled contributions we have made to the human race: the industrial revolution itself started in England; we invented the computer and the World Wide Web.
The list is endless..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_inventions_and_discoveries
We have given infinitely more than we have taken. You should be grateful for the English.
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Well said Paul.
I would add that it is the nature of empires to be a mix of benign and the bad. There are of course some all good or all bad outliers such as the German National Socialist regime whose only benign effects were anti smoking, autobahns and environmentalism, but I think a fair historical comparison of empires throughout history would support this.
I see no value in getting into a ping pong game of “my side good, your side bad”. To study this properly you would first need to define a suitable set of metrics and then assemble data to support an assessment. Immediately the first problem with this is revealed as some of the metrics defined are certain to be influenced by the cultural background of the author. For example researcher A might value technological innovation as a good, whereas researcher B might value social stability over time – these may be to some extent mutually exclusive.
Another factor to consider is how well documented are the wrong doings committed by states and their members. In England, various checks and balances have evolved to bring the powerful to account where they have committed crimes or injustices. This reaches it’s modern form in the 17th century with parliamentary government and committees of inquiry (e.g. East India Company, abolition of slavery, army conduct in the Boer war – the list is extensive). Alongside this is activism by the people (Peasants revolt, Chartists, anti slavery, Trade unionism, the Labour movement, CND etc). So my suspicion is that the wrongdoings of the powerful in “the west” are more thoroughly documented than elsewhere (feel free to prove me wrong – I don’t have the breadth of historical knowledge across the continents to support this)
Another factor to bear in mind is that the European empires are the most recent, so the effects both good and bad loom large. But history never starts from a given point, Europeans entered onto the global stage populated by existing great empires (Chinese, Indian, Ottoman etc) and found themselves to be technologically superior and better organised. In Europe there was over two centuries of pushing back against the Ottomans (let’s say starting at the battle of Vienna in 1683 – what were the Ottomans doing besieging Vienna by the way?). This left a legacy of Balkan and Middle eastern trouble.
I speak to many British people from different cultures and traditions and with some it is possible to have a balanced discussion about history – I note that these people tend to be comfortable with being British and successful in life. Others however seem to be full of resentment and hate, some have drug problems and many are unsuccessful in life. I wonder about the motivations of those who say thing like “The English have brutalized and exploited many peoples of the world.” without qualification and comparison. I believe some have personal psychological problems perhaps due to life failure and some have a political agenda.
I leave the last word to Monty Python:
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Monty Python clinches it for me.
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Deny the British empire’s crimes? No, we ignore them.
The ignorance find expression in racist remarks like Today we are a minority. Arabs seem to predominate in 2020.
The bloody historical facts speak for themselves.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/apr/23/british-empire-crimes-ignore-atrocities
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Don’t be silly. It is a demographic fact. Facts are not racist.
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Unhistorical Fairytales:
The 2011 census recorded 44.9% White British in London. In 2020 this will be even less. With continued mass migration this is likely to be repeated across the UK by the end of the century. As a general proposition, what is your view on the replacement of an indigenous people by foreigners?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_London
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@ Andy
I don’t personally see what the big deal is. Even though I generally think Agnostic is a high functioning retard, he does have the point that the reason for the migration is an aftereffect of colonialism. So I guess you can say that they got the last laugh?
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