British philosopher Anthony Kenny candidly describes the predicament of the beginning of the universe, which both atheists and agnostics face, writing,
“According to the Big Bang Theory, the whole matter of the universe began at a particular time in the remote past. A proponent of such a theory, at least if he is an atheist, must believe that the matter of the universe came from nothing and by nothing.”
Anthony Kenny, The Five Ways: St. Thomas Aquinas’ Proofs of God’s Existence (New York: Schocken, 1969), p. 66
Categories: Atheism, Philosophy, Science
50 year old strawman
Agnostic: you’re well beyond your sell-by date.
All of the energy and matter of the universe was held tightly within the singularity which rapidly expanded to produce the “Big Bang.” All that happened was that it vastly changed size and shape. It was all there in the beginning in a different form. The superheated gases that give a firecracker its ‘pop’, were there beforehand as chemicals. Nothing was “created,” except the noise, and especially not, “from Nothing.” 😯
“It was all there in the beginning in a different form”
It’s fascinating we live in a world were people say the dumbest stuff, like the one above, and consider themselves intelligent.
It was all there? How can it just be all there? How can the physical laws be all there? Remember you as an atheist have to give answers which are subjected to the laws of physics.
How can it just all be there? How can the physical laws all be there?
And you think I say dumb things. 🙄
Just because you don’t understand it, or don’t want to believe it, doesn’t mean it’s not true. I’d suggest reading Hawking’s book, A Brief History of Time, to see what he actually says.
BTW – Other than you, who says I’m an Atheist? My preacher, Reverend Phillips just shakes his head at people like you. He says you give the rest of us real Christians a bad name by making us all look stupid. No wonder Atheists laugh at you.
Buddy YOU said it was all there. I’m just asking for clarification. And all you can give me is ‘go read that book there’. Who said I was a xtian? I DO give xtians a bad name by exposing their cult.
Saying ‘it’s all there’ is NOT retarded? And asking how that can be IS retarded?
Are we really gonna play this game?
You said the most stupid things ever and pretend to have the upperhand.
And buddy if you say that everything was there and not created then that implies that there isn’t a god who created everything. EVERYONE will assume that that you’re an atheist. You’re so desperate to have a ‘got ya’ moment. Sorry you failed, as did your monkey brain.
I am not qualified to teach about infinite curvature, singularities, finite universe with no boundaries, a time when ‘Time’ did not exist, or quantum gravitation. You are not qualified to learn. Read the damned book. Read several books, including one about good manners. Get educated. Find out that you don’t know it all.
If I’m not qualified to learn then why do end by saying ‘get educated’?
Sorry but that’s just a weak response as expected. You’re just throwing out fancy words when asked a question and then you tap out by saying you’re not qualified.
If you say everything was already there then that implies you don’t have an answer since you can’t explain that with physics. Laws of physics can’t explain their own existence no matter what fancy words and and half assed theories you present to try and hide that fact.
I have read books about good manners, you clearly think they’re made up fairytails while believing in the fairytales of bullshut artists like hawkings and others.
These fundamentalist blockhead missionaries give their religion a bad name, not only Christianity