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  1. “Is he who is a believer like he who transgresses? They are not equal.”

    No but they should be equal under the law.

    Sharia is built upon an injustice.

    • @ Erasmus

      Unlike his your unfounded statement let’s read what the Quran says:

      Believers, stand firmly for justice, as witnesses before God, even if it is against yourselves, your parents, or your closest family members. Whether the person is rich or poor, God is their greater well-wisher and protector than you; therefore, refrain from following your own personal desires, so that you do not deviate. If you twist your words in your testimony or refuse to give it and hide it away, God is fully aware of all that you do. (4:135)

      Believers, become people who truly stand up for God by being a witness to justice for My sake. You should not allow the animosity you have towards any nation or people, lead you away from justice. Remain fair! That is closer to righteousness and being god fearing. Be aware of God because He is fully aware of what you do. (5:8)

    • Where in the Bible does it say that believers and unbelievers are to be treated equally under the law?

      • @ QB

        That’s true. While we have explicit verses and practices from the Prophet’s(saw) Companions this appears to be lacking in the Bible:

        As the brother notes in his article about how the Quran corrects the Bible:

        You may charge a foreigner interest, but not a fellow Israelite, so that the LORD your God may bless you in everything you put your hand to in the land you are entering to possess.[Deuteronomy 23:20]

        Surely a sin is a sin, regardless of who is sinned against? By comparison the Qur’an comprehensively condemns the practice of usury:

        Allah destroys interest and gives increase for charities. And Allah does not like every sinning disbeliever. Indeed, those who believe and do righteous deeds and establish prayer and give zakah will have their reward with their Lord, and there will be no fear concerning them, nor will they grieve. O you who have believed, fear Allah and give up what remains [due to you] of interest, if you should be believers. And if you do not, then be informed of a war [against you] from Allah and His Messenger. But if you repent, you may have your principal – [thus] you do no wrong, nor are you wronged. [Chapter 2, verses 276-279]

        Notice how the Qur’an not only declares unlawful all acts of usury going forward, it also commanded believers to give up what was owed to them in interest from past loans, with only the original sum of the loan being lawful and not a penny more. The Qur’an also criticises the Jews for practising usury when it had been forbidden for them in the original Torah, this seems to indicate that the verses which permit usury against non-Jews in the Torah have been falsified:

        For wrongdoing on the part of the Jews, We made unlawful for them [certain] good foods which had been lawful to them, and for their averting from the way of Allah many [people], And [for] their taking of usury while they had been forbidden from it, and their consuming of the people’s wealth unjustly. And we have prepared for the disbelievers among them a painful punishment. [Chapter 4, verses 160-161]

        What should be fresh in our minds is the recent turmoil in the financial markets which was caused by unscrupulous practices such as dealing in usury.


      • Human nature is homogeneous and cannot change. The law which is written in to it in the form of conscience is therefore the same for all and binds all equally to obey it.

        We also have no reason to doubt that the sayings of Jesus apply universally to all men.

      • So no answer then? Your Bible says nothing about the equality of all people before the law?

        It’s amazing how easily sola scriptural can be jettisoned, inst it?

  2. evangelical agenda

  3. @ Erasmus

    Actually no you don’t as I demonstrated before in regards to interest or that Jesus makes a woman beg and call herself a gentile bi**h of Israel shows that the law is not applied equally in your texts.

  4. Miracles of healing are not obligatory to God. The woman is compared to a dog because she had to scavange for her blessings as a heathen.

    • @ Erasmus

      I agree but why did the NON-JEW have to beg and call herself a dog but a JEW did not? That is racism as she had to humiliate herself and “scavenge” as you say.

      Also, notice among Jews one cannot do interest and if talking to non-Jews one can do interest. Hmmm… if something is a sin it doesn’t matter who the person being sinned against is.

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