Islamophobia: Trojan Horse Amidst the Right

The Alt-Right take on Islamophobia. Some good points.. 

‘Islamophobia is not intrinsic to the Right, and it is only in recent decades that the Right has been subverted and redirected into opposition to Muslims and Arabs.’

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  1. David Wood makes a lot of good points; the Sri Lanka suicide bombers where radicalized Muslims, educated in the west. A point that is especially astute is that it is the left wing politicians and media platforms like Facebook and Twitter who are protecting the ones (SOME Muslims) that do terrorism, allowing it to continue to grow.

    Labeling all criticism of Islam as “Islamophobia” is a tactic to try and shut down conversation and civilized debate and discussion, and to find discernment between the true valid criticisms of those aspects of Islamic texts vs. the non-intellectual criticism and fear of all things Islamic.

    Hatred of different races and peoples is sin the comes from pride and arrogance.(Mark 7:20-23)

    Christ, through the atonement and resurrection, has broken down the barriers of hate and racial pride – Colossians 3:9-12; Revelation 5:9 (Christ has redeemed some from all nations by His holy blood atonement); Ephesians 2:11-22- a passage Paul Williams criticizes all the time and misunderstands. the hatred and enmity that comes from some aspects of the OT Theocratic law was abolished, not all the moral law itself. The parts that keep cultures separated and looking down on one another is the part that was broken and abolished. (food laws, external rituals, feasts, circumcision, Sabbath Day rules, temple sacrificial laws)

    We should be able to intellectually criticize specific problems without the tactic of labeling everything that criticizes Islam as “Islamophobia” and “hate”, etc. Labeling things like that is similar to the tactic of the homosexual agenda years ago that came up with “homophobia”. What an ironic twist of similar tactics.

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    • What a load of irrelevant ranting. The article I linked to concerns the political Right and Islamophobia.

      This blog is not a forum for you to vent your spleen on whatever goes through your fevered brain Ken. Try and read the article before commenting.

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    • You are such a hypocrite Ken by bringing this scum in the subject. You know very well that David Wood is a liar, and he has never criticized Islam, rather he criticizes his own straw man. David frames hadiths with his own filthy tongue then projects them to his zealous ignorant audience who are by most are ignorant in Christianity itself, let alone about Islam.
      David has been fueling the hatred against muslims because muslims according to his view are just evil people who use taqyyiah (by the way, he lied about the concept of taqqyiah even).

      You only go to this school because you are defeated in the real debate with Muslims. Don’t tell me he loves muslims, but hates Islam. It reminds me with he equation of your prophet Paul who says the law of God is shackles, powerless, fault, and it leads to death only, yet it’s holy just if someone can do it correctly, and no once can do!

      Why does this clown present muslims like this? Unless he is just a scum hypocrite!

      Moreover, Americans and the west in general are the last people who have the right to talk about waging wars or killing innocent people!
      Your horrible wars have been very well documented with the blessing of christians since your prophet Paul gave the green light to pagan Roman Empire!
      You have wiped whole city because it’s the judgement of God according to you.

      You have nothing except “the western culture” which has been dominated by the secularity right now. Literally you have nothing so that you may point your bloody finger towards muslims! You have to be hypocrites! There’s no other choice for you because your religion is so lacking! !

      I think no need to point out that what happened in Siri- lanka has nothing to do with the teaching of Islam. The framing David presents and the correlation he builds are under my feet!
      But if he insists with his misinterpretation, then why does he neglect the teaching of his religion? Didn’t your religion say (do not resist an evil person)? Yes, but David knows that such a teaching doesn’t fit machiavellian and the imperialistic policy of his western culture.
      Even the other wing among the western hypocrisy notices your hypocrisy!

      If it’s up to me, I would block you, Ken. You insult your intelligence! There’s no place for your powerless preaching here!

      Finally , I challenge David to start “loving” jews by criticizing Judaism! Let’s see a “judasizes me” series about the fables of jews as your prophet Paul put it!
      Would he dare?

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  2. Ben Shapiro exposes the hypocrisy of the political Left when commenting on acts of terrorism.

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    • Ken this video is irrelevant and off topic. The article I linked to concerns the political Right and Islamophobia.

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    • Ben Shapiro is just a hypocrite zionist! He likes to kiss christians’ asses! That’s it.

      The last of his Bulls**t was this one

      He neglected in purpose some crucial historical facts about that place with his people! For example, the fact that By 1182 France exiled Jews, destroyed their businesses, & that’s while persecuting them for a century during Crusades. In fact, the replacement theology is still presented by the idols of that place!
      Why did he does that? Because he’s just a hypocrite! For him, Western civilization is more important than the law of God!
      https://www.timesofisrael.com/radical-rabbi-says-notre-dame-fire-retribution-for-13th-century-talmud-burning/

      What did Jesus say for this kind of jews in his time?
      “Jesus replied, “And why do you, by your traditions, violate the direct commandments of God? ….In this way, you say they don’t need to honor their parents. And so you cancel the word of God for the sake of your own tradition. You hypocrites!.. ”

      This kind of people reminds of these verses in Qur’an!
      “The hypocrite men and hypocrite women are of one another. They enjoin what is wrong and forbid what is right and close their hands. They have forgotten Allah, so He has forgotten them [accordingly]. Indeed, the hypocrites – it is they who are the defiantly disobedient. Allah has promised the hypocrite men and hypocrite women and the disbelievers the fire of Hell, wherein they will abide eternally. It is sufficient for them. And Allah has cursed them, and for them is an enduring punishment.” QT.

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  3. How dare you Ken to bring those hypocrites & scum in the subject!?

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  4. Because he’s Ken. What else do you expect?

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    • “Christ, through the atonement and resurrection, has broken down the barriers of hate and racial pride ”

      Tell that to the black people who were being lashed while being read the “Curse of Ham” by slavers.

      Also:
      https://quranandbibleblog.wordpress.com/2018/03/30/a-bible-for-slaves/

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      • Yes, there were some people who sinned in that area, and personally, I don’t believe they were truly born again Christians (of the ones who owned slaves, those that were cruel – I don’t believe they were true believers). There has always been the problem of lots of cultural and nominal Christians, trusting in their baby baptism or just going to church, but as you know that does not make them a Christian.

        Good works and good behavior demonstrate if one is a true believer or not.

        “The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery;
        20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

        22 But the fruit [evidence] of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
        23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
        24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

        Galatians 5:19-24

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  5. @ Ken

    Ohhhh…. how convenient EVERY Christian in Europe, North America and South America were not “truly born again Christians”. Have you ever been to the South? Lol, those are some of the biggest Bible-thumping Christians you’ll find I assure you. There is nothing in the Bible that states slavery is forbidden so no sin was committed according to your books. (Also before you try to “conveniently” say without proof that the “man-stealing” law in the OT was not abrogated (because I have to agree with QB there is a picking and choosing of laws liked and then claiming the Torah is being upheld) Africans were not “man stolen” during the Atlantic slave trade.)

    But I’ll go with this, the sect of Christians who were adamant about anti-slavery we’re the Quakers. So I guess the Quakers are the “true born again Christians” and they are by all definitions of major heretics. Don’t lie, man, according to you Saudi Arabia and Iran are “true Muslim countries”. So now my turn, you claim that the United States was founded on Judeo-Christian principles and slavery was a major reason for its economic success. And then we’re not even talking about the next 100 years of discriminatory practices that followed. So you’re telling me ALL those people were not “truly born Christians” as well? The Bible’s entire foundations are based on racial superiority. Which is why fools such as the Hebrew Israelites have to pretend their Jews to feel important.

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    • He thinks only people who live through the law of God are sinners, but those who live through Christ are not! And once this belief is proven to be false by the reality of christians’ life again and again, they just go with the saying that those people are not christians in the first place.

      Moreover, what’s this notion about being born again? We muslims can say that, but as far as I know that christians believe that humans are under the wrath of God once they are born, so what what’s the deal with this analogy? Do christians imply that people are born pure?

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    • If slavery was forbidden by Ken’s Bible, then why didnt his savior explicitly say so? Ken is clearly lying through his teeth. Maybe he is also not a born-again Christian? 🤔

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  6. @ QB

    Oh nevermind I found the answer from the well known apologist site got questions:

    Another crucial point is that the purpose of the Bible is to point the way to salvation, not to reform society.

    https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-slavery.html

    So basically the Bible defeats the whole point of revelation. To explain who God is clearly and reform the society. Without that what good is it?

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    • Society cannot be reformed without the changing of hearts first. External laws of force without new hearts and minds just creates more sinning secretly.

      But if hearts are truly changed first, then families are changed, communities are changed, and society will improve – there has to be spiritual revival from God’s sovereignty working in hearts – a return to prayer, Scripture, morality, etc.

      Slavery was eventually defeated in the west by the changing of hearts.

      Kidnapping people (“man stealing” or “human trafficking”) – 1 Timothy 1:8-11; Revelation chapters 17-18 – was always wrong and was the root of the problem.

      William Wilberforce and Granville Sharp (also a famous Greek scholar, who had a Greek grammar rule named after him) were Evangelical Christians in politics who worked hard to abolish the slave trade in England.

      https://www.desiringgod.org/books/amazing-grace-in-the-life-of-william-wilberforce

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      • @ Ken
        LMAO!!!! WHAT!!! OH MY GOD!!!! You think they gave a da** about slaves!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ahhhhh….

        Alright, let me help you out, Ken. Slaves were not freed because people felt bad about it (the fact that they had SYSTEMATIC discriminatory practices for the next 100+ years afterward is proof of that).

        Slaves were ONLY freed to screw up the South’s economy during the Civil War. That’s it. Pure economics. The South wanted to become its own country the United States said heck no. Black people just benefitted from the situation.

        This is why I can’t stand movies like “Amistad” where they have people standing up trying to “defend the” that is pure fantasy.

        Next, there was no “man-stealing” in the Transatlantic Slave. People have this misconception some guys wearing blouses and colonial hats just came over and started snatching black people up. While it did sometimes happen that is not an effective business model. Most black people were slaves previously and were sold to Europe, North America, and South America. Nobody got “man stolen” so no sin was committed according to your books. Finally, the Bible was used to justify the practice what are you talking about?

        “Slavery was eventually defeated in the west by the changing of hearts.”

        HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! No. Just no, Ken.

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      • The nuking if Ken begins anew.

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  7. The beginning of the article has lots of assumptions and a truckload of imbedded false background and anachronistic backloading in it.

    The ‘clash of civilizations’, whose origins lie a century ago in Anglo-French duplicity, inflamed by Zionist machinations aligned with American millennialism, has created a refugee crisis, . . .

    That is so ridiculous to blame the current refugee crisis on all the way back so far. It is amazing to me that the Arab Muslim world seems to always blame the west or the Jews for their own problems and lack of ability to reign in terrorists and bad teachings and bad leaders.

    resulting in the presence of millions of Muslims in Europe and in Europe’s offshore settlements.

    The Iraq war (or the bad information and bad execution of it) is a much better starting place; but the problem of ISIS was created by allowing such a massive vaccum and leaving so much weaponry and equipment in their hands, and releasing Al Baghdadi from prison a couple of years before that time, etc. coupled with Wahabi / Salafi / Muslim brotherhood teachings on steroids combined with bitter Saddam generals.

    As in any war (this one now being called ‘the war on terrorism’),

    the word “now” is a strange word to use for a concept that is now about 20 years old. George W. Bush and his advisors came up with that terminology about 20 years ago – response to Al Qaedah and 9-11-2001.

    Of course it is the Islamic terrorists (Al Qaeda, Boko Haram, Isis, Al Shabab, etc.) who are the fault, not the west. If they would behave themselves and learn to be civilized and normal, the “global war on (radical Islamic) terror” would stop.

    enemies require demonization to generate sufficient hatred for belligerents to fight. The product of this need has been Islamophobia. Like the anti-Red hysteria against the USSR during the Cold War,

    Sounds like the author of this article might be a Marxist.

    at a time when more Bolshevism existed in New York than in Moscow, this Cold War II allows the maintenance and extension of globalist hegemony, supposedly in defence of ‘Western values’, which are a product of the Late West in its epoch of decay.

    “Western values” are a big catch-all phrase with some good, but without also Christian moral values, “western values’ like leftists currently who have taken over the Democrat party in the USA, – it will implode upon itself; because leftist – cultural Marxist / socialism values have no moral foundation for law or society.

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    • “Islamophobia” is a political tactic to try and shut down conversation, like “homophobia”.

      There is real “Sharia-law-phobia” and “Islamic terrorism phobia”, but most people should not be labeled as “Islamophobic” (who criticism aspects of Islam, terrorism like Isis and Al Qaeda, Sharia-law, Caliphate return, etc.) ; and Muslims should not use phrase as a comeback against all criticism.

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    • at a time when more Bolshevism existed in New York than in Moscow

      When was that? New York never had a Lenin and Stalin to foment a violent revolution and, then afterwards, as a result, kill millions of people.

      What a crazy statement made by the author of this article.

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    • //It is amazing to me that the Arab Muslim world seems to always blame the west or the Jews //
      This is very superficial statement, Ken. Americans in general don’t give damn h**t to wha’s going on outside of their border. They always like to simplify things as you do that’s in case if they heard about these countries in the first place.

      Just to refresh your mind, there’s had not been Qaead or Isis in Iraq before your filthy invasion. The conical period has not stopped after the “militaries of love” got back to their countries in the whole Arab world! Why would one deny the obvious!

      This is your Philosophers and authors who say that, which by they way are not Marxist.

      //Of course it is the Islamic terrorists//
      Deal with the truck in your eye before you vomit this superficial description.

      What happened in Palestine by large is because of the west in the first place! There’s no question about that. Why would you deny that? Does the international law work according to your scripture?

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      • 2001 to today is Al Qaeda and Isis’ fault.

        The wrong way the Iraq war was done is no excuse for their crimes against humanity and against their own people – the Kurds, other Sunnis who would not submit, the Yazidis, the Syrian people, Orthodox and Catholic Christians, Shias, etc. –

        God blames and holds people responsible for their own reactions.

        No relation to the Palestinian – Israel issue.

        Firearm deaths – one would have to break that down into different categories. Some are legitimate police and legitimate military actions. (some police mistakes and sins are there, but not the extent to which left wing media makes it out to be.)

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      • Notice how this piece of slime tries to downplay the crimes committed by his fellow Christian criminals. Day in and day out, Ken shows everyone his true, demonic side.

        Oh the Iraq war? Oops sorry! Our bad.

        Al-Qaeda and ISIS? (Foams at the mouth) THERE’S NO EXCUSE FOR THEIR CRIMES!!!

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      • spot on!

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      • The second video has a lot of good points in it.
        Have not listened to the first one yet. (Noam Chomsky)

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    • @ Ken

      Now, let me just do some corrections here:

      1. Yes, Zionism and colonialism is a MAJOR reason for political turmoil in the Muslim world. Almost ALL these current rulers and lands were created by Colonialist (see Sykes-Picot Agreement and the Oded Yinon Plan). The right wing believes in stupid stuff like the “rapture” and they believe they need to help the zionist in establishing Israel in order for Isa(as) to return. Now given that the rapture is actually unbiblical and was started by a little girl in Scotland who claimed to have visions, the point is they think they need to help the Zionist which influences foreign policy. The Jews obviously don’t care and Christians are just a pawn to them. Now that doesn’t mean Muslim leaders shouldn’t get an honorable mention for being extremely incompetent and tyrannical but let’s not act like they aren’t factors in modern times. People have the right to their own political sovereignty if Muslims want a Caliphate you cannot decide otherwise. ALL of it is lies and hypocritical as when Muslims used your form of government which you claims represent “Western values” and elected Morsi in a FAIR DEMOCRATIC ELECTION. The US THEN helped Sisi in his coup to overthrow him and installed a new puppet dictator. Sisi then enacts what the US wants in Egypt and preceded to kill, arrest and torture hundreds of people in Egypt. But, but, Ken why do Muslims blame the West for their problems huh? Also, the Jews are trying to establish independent states to serve as buffers for Israel but Ken why would we blame them for political issues it doesn’t make any sense?

      2. According to the media who lies to you constantly and who will more than likely be getting their mouths torn open in Hell by hooks Muslims have started a “Secret jihad to infiltrate Europe”. Now, Ken, this may be shocking but when you attack countries and start wars you create refugee problems as people are displaced from their homes. Watch this:

      2000> No refugee crisis
      2001< Refugee crisis

      Ta-dah!

      If you disagree with that then what changed in those time frames? Hmmm.

      3. The Iraq War was illegal and was only started to prove that the United States still has global military dominance and has the capacity to strike any country anytime, anywhere. This is why Iraq was chosen because it is in the center of the Muslim world.

      4. All these groups (insert whoever) were funded, trained and caused by the West whether directly or indirectly. For example, "ISIS" was originally a nationalist group originally called the "Sons of Iraq". They were funded by the US and used as its death squads to maintain control in Iraq. The US then opened Camp Bucca which had about 1/3rd of its inmates in their either innocent or no charges filed. THIS here is what led to radicalization and where ISIS's leaders came from. They wanted revenge and the US stopped paying the "Sons of Iraq" because they felt it was under control. This then was a dream come true and left the vacuum for ISIS and they started doing what they were doing as revenge. Combine that with the US being pro Shia and allowing discrimination among the Muslim population and you then have a bunch of people join it to fight back. Not saying what they did was right but that's the situation.

      But now those people on FOX who basically talk about how large Trump's Johnson is all day (spoiler according to them it's enormous) then feed to you the gullible public who have never even heard of these places but seem to have so much commentary on them:
      "Well it was racialized Muslim teachings…bur,bur,bur.. why don't they ever condemn them bur, bur, bur. I don't even speak Arabic but you can't tell I'm an expert?"

      This was NEVER an issue pre WW1, hmmm… what happened since then? It's weird that the two areas most affected by Colonialism (the Middle East and Africa) and have large amounts of resources seem to have the most problems. Now, what could possibly be the problem Ken? It's easy to talk stuff all day from a computer screen and say "if they believed in Jesus as an idol this wouldn't happen" but allow me to burst your bubble further. The world is a lot more grey than you think. None of these people are getting halos around their heads anytime soon, in fact, the majority of them are future coals of Hell. No they don't care about "Western values" this is said to fool the naive. Do you have any questions, comments or concerns so far about what you learned today?

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      • Thanks for lots of info; some good; some mixed with bias and spin. I would have to do more research on some of those issues. I confess I don’t know a lot of details.

        I don’t agree with the secret Pre-tribulational “rapture”, but I also don’t think it was started by Margaret McDonald. (the Scottish girl you refer to)

        John Nelson Darby started the Dispensational scheme and Pre-tribulational rapture.

        On the accusation that John Nelson Darby got that doctrine from Margaret MacDonald:
        “However, scholars think there are major obstacles that render these accusations untenable. It is clear that Darby regarded the 1830 charismatic manifestations as demonic and not of God.[4] Darby would not have borrowed an idea from a source that he clearly thought was demonic.[9] Also Darby had already written out his pre-tribulation rapture views in January 1827, 3 years prior to the 1830 events and any MacDonald utterance.[10] “

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  8. “That is so ridiculous to blame the current refugee crisis on all the way back so far. It is amazing to me that the Arab Muslim world seems to always blame the west or the Jews for their own problems and lack of ability to reign in terrorists and bad teachings and bad leaders. ”

    Hmmm, I wonder who gave Bin Laden all that money and weapons and training to fight the Soviets? Oh gosh, who were those people?

    And who gave Saddam Hussein chemical weapons to use against Iran? Oh gosh, I can’t remember who that was!

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    • poor Ken..

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      • At the time, (1979 ff) the US was attempting to help the Afghans against the Soviets and their injustice. (I think that was under Jimmy Carter’s Presidency)

        They did not realize what they would do in the future. They are still responsible for their own sins and what they do with the new training and technology in the future.

        I don’t know much about the chemical weapons for Saddam. The Soviets supplied him with a lot also – one article said the Soviet weapons help to Iraq was “massive”.

        the Baath Party philosophy seemed to be a mixture of Arab nationalism and desire for independence, mixed with Socialism, Communism, and Fascists ideas.

        Of course political powers do all sorts of bad things and sins behind the scenes.

        “our citizenship is not on this earth, but in heaven” Philippians 3:20-21

        Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world . . . ” John 18:36

        This is why lots of Christians stay out of politics as much as possible.

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      • The stupidity and ignorance of this Christian fanatic are appalling. The US specifically used the ideology of jihad to encourage the Afghan resistance to fight the Soviets. Of course, it was a righteous struggle against the communists but the US knowingly made the war appear like a religious struggle between good and evil for it’s own interests.

        It is a well-known fact that Saddam received chemical weapons from the US:

        “…the administrations of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush authorized the sale to Iraq of numerous items that had both military and civilian applications, including poisonous chemicals and deadly biological viruses, such as anthrax and bubonic plague.”

        https://www.google.com/amp/www.msnbc.com/msnbc/odonnell-reagan-let-saddam-buy-and-use/amp

        So stop lying and excusing the crimes of your demonic Christian leaders.

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      • By the way, it is now know that the US actually wanted the Soviets to invade Afghanistan so they could get stuck there. Carter and his National Security Advisor Brzezinski goaded the Soviets to invade:

        “According to former CIA Director Robert Gates, US intelligence services began aiding the anti-Soviet Union mujahideen six months ahead of the Red Army’s invasion.

        Brzezinksi said he convinced Carter to sign the first directive for secret aid to opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul on July 3, 1979 in an effort to goad the Red Army into invading, in a 1998 interview.

        “I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention,” said Brzezinksi.”

        https://www.aljazeera.com/archive/2003/04/2008410113842420760.html

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  9. @ Ken

    Thank you for reminding me of her name I blanked on it. Either way, whoever invented the foolishness it still influences US policy and their support of Zionism who uses them accordingly.

    And by all means Ken, please research. I know it’s scary when things are said so bluntly and it shows who the good guys are.

    Also, LAYMEN Christian were not involved in politics the Church and leaders of Christian lands were/are VERY much so. They say that to you so you focus on stupid things like Kim Kardashian’s new nail color instead.

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    • True Christians don’t waste time on Kim Kardashian, etc.

      But many avoid politics and some don’t even vote.

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      • @ Ken

        You misunderstood I didn’t mean just Christians I mean the masses in general.

        “Many avoid politics”

        Yeah, I guess if we ignore the fact that for a very significant time in history the Pope was considered one of, if not thee strongest political position in Europe that forced kings and Emperors to bow to his will and that the Church owns the most amount of land in the world what you’re saying is right.

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      • Remember I am Protestant and do not agree with the Papacy. It was not Biblical and not even in the early centuries of Christianity. There was no “bishop of Rome as bishop over all other bishops”. Cyprian and 86 other bishops from all over in 257-258 AD objected to bishop of Rome’s Stephen’s claims.

        “For neither does any of us set himself up as a bishop of bishops, nor by tyrannical terror does any compel his colleague to the necessity of obedience; since every bishop, according to the allowance of his liberty and power, has his own proper right of judgment, and can no more be judged by another than he himself can judge another. But let us all wait for the judgment of our Lord Jesus Christ, who is the only one that has the power both of preferring us in the government of His Church, and of judging us in our conduct there.”

        http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf05.iv.vi.i.html

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  10. @ QB

    It’s not stupidity certain people live very sheltered lives QB. My wife thinks I was wrong for telling him that much. We basically had this moment together:

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  11. This is a sincere question:

    In Islamic theology, are you suppossed to take responsibility for your own reactions to things (even when injustice is done to you, or persecution or insults); are you suppossed to be mature and patient and handle injustice with a proper response(s)?

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    • This is a sincere question:

      In Christian theology, are you supposed to admit when you have no idea what you are talking about and get put in your place for being a biased ignoramus; are you supposed to be honest and handle facts with a proper response?

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    • But seriously, the answer is yes.

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    • @ Ken

      Yes everyone is in charge of their own actions however there is a nuance to this mostly depending on the context.

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    • Seriously?
      Although I know this is not an innocent question, I’ll try to answer it.
      Ken, have you not heard about the noble concept of Jihad? The concept of Jihad is speaking volume about taking responsibility. Justice for muslims is drawn by Allah عز وجل who for Him belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them, and to Him is the [final] destination. That’s why we have a clear vision about the justice and how should be applied on earth.
      “So let those fight in the cause of Allah who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter. And he who fights in the cause of Allah and is killed or achieves victory – We will bestow upon him a great reward. And what is [the matter] with you that you fight not in the cause of Allah and [for] the oppressed among men, women, and children who say, “Our Lord, take us out of this city of oppressive people and appoint for us from Yourself a protector and appoint for us from Yourself a helper?” Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the cause of Taghut. So fight against the allies of Satan. Indeed, the plot of Satan has ever been weak.” QT.

      “You are the best nation produced [as an example] for mankind. You enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong and believe in Allah . If only the People of the Scripture had believed, it would have been better for them. Among them are believers, but most of them are defiantly disobedient.”QT

      In contrast, other religious people( they know themselves) have a very lacking view about justice. It’s not drawn by Allah عزوحل, but it’s drawn by desires and culture. Their religion states that they just need to believe in a man who got crucified naked 2000 years ago to get salvation (no responsibility).
      They always brag about being guaranteed the salvation. Regarding the justice on earth, they have the concept of waiting, which means they are like the whore who is “at the head of every street she built her lofty shrines and degraded her beauty. With increasing promiscuity, She spread her legs to all who passed by.” until the Messiah comes again (no responsibility). In the past, they talk about justice from the viewpoint of the pagan Romans because those pagans were the servants of God, yet in this age, they talk about justice from the viewpoint of the secular liberal western values which states clearly that God is just a myth. Now one would wonder how one can define the morality objectivity without God, and why those religious people act hypocritically with those atheists?

      “You adulterous people, don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.” James.

      “Cursed were those who disbelieved among the Children of Israel by the tongue of David and of Jesus, the son of Mary. That was because they disobeyed and [habitually] transgressed.They used not to prevent one another from wrongdoing that they did. How wretched was that which they were doing.You see many of them becoming allies of those who disbelieved. How wretched is that which they have put forth for themselves in that Allah has become angry with them, and in the punishment they will abide eternally.” QT

      Finally, isn’t it very arrogant on part of those people to ask muslims “are you supposed to take responsibility”! It’s really disgusting!

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  12. @ Ken

    You are being inconsistent as you would be the “heretic” and false religion in this case. The Papacy claims to be authorized by Peter himself and Jesus said the “Church would be established by Peter”. So Ken according to you that’s as good as eye witness testimony and it is historically reliable. Why shouldn’t we believe this “eye witness” account/ tradition over Martin Luther and King Henry who was born 1,500 years later? Congratulations, Ken, you put a piece together, the papacy is like “proto-orthodox” of early Christianity.

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  13. @ Ken

    Also, I forgot the protestants were HEAVILY involved in European politics as well so that doesn’t help your case.

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  1. The “Temple” of Ignorance: A Response to Ken Temple on Dhimmis, Jizyah, and Islam – Part III – The Quran and Bible Blog
  2. The “Temple” of Ignorance: A Response to Ken Temple on Dhimmis, Jizyah, and Islam – Part III – Blogging Theology

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